Episode 025: Gwen Jorgensen: Perspectives of a World Champion


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Suzanne Atkinson sits down with 2014 World Triathlon Series World Champion Gwen Jorgensen in this edition of #TriathlonResearchRadio for a conversation about training, competition and exciting life events. It’s been an amazing year for Gwen and her story is sure to inspire. Click to listen!

Learning Moments
00:01 – Podcast Intro
00:36 – Suzanne Introduces Gwen Jorgensen
01:08 – Catching Up with Gwen
02:03 –
03:45 – Qualifying for the Olympics
04:49 – Learning Moments

A Typical Training Day
06:05 – What are the Wollongong Wizards?
07:00 – Training with Jamie Turner
08:47 – The Typical Training Day
10:25 – Training Structure and Periodization
11:32 – Gwen’s Race Schedule

A World of Victories
12:22 – ITU Chicago and Age Groupers
13:29 – Winning ITU Chicago
14:19 – Competing Around the World
15:22 – Process vs. Outcome

Good Training Habits
17:41 – Actions and Processes
19:34 – Maintaining Focus in Training
20:40 – Developing Good Training Habits

Getting Consistent Results
23:01 – Group Training for Age Groupers
26:53 – Achieving Consistent Results

Balancing Life and Sport
30:21 – Personal Relationships and Triathlon
33:38 – Gwen’s Scholarship Fund

What it Means to Be World Champion
36:04 – Winning at Edmonton
37:18 – Different Processes for Different Races
39:10 – Gwen on Being World Champion
40:04 – Jamie Turner’s Training Style
41:12 – Clermont Training Camp
42:31 – Mark Allen Outro
43:06 – Podcast Outro

Intro: Welcome to Triathlon Research that brings together the world’s best Triathlon coaches, Athletes , Equipment experts and medical professional to give you the right information that you need to race past your personal best and to get more enjoyment out of your triathlon journey. Triathlon Research where we teach you how to train smart here’s your host Suzanne Atkinson MD, founder and head coach od Steel city Endurance.

Suzanne: Hi there, This is Suzanne Atkinson with Triathlon Research radio and today having the pleasure of interviewing Gwen Jorgensen who is the 2014 world triathlon series champion, Gwen Thanks for joining me today.

Gwen: Thanks for having me.

Suzanne: I’m really excited to catch up with you since we last talk, I think the last time was about a year ago. When we did I googled hanout at the end of 2013 and you’ve had a quite a year since then

Gwen: Yeah I have, I had a pretty good year

Suzanne: That’s putting up mildly, so I just want to help people catch up and you know I’m always interested in flushing up my knowledge as well. The year that you had, when you are racing primarily exclusively in the world triathlon series events is that correct?

Gwen : Yeah the so called event of the year was WPS races so I basically, All I did world Triathlon series races and anything else is just kind of a training race or bonus race, partly for those races.

Suzanne: You did a lot of this races last year as well, It’s also exclusively triathlon series last year

Gwen: Correct, Yes I’ve been focusing in a IT world Triathlon series for a few years now.

Suzanne : And can you explain to me what it is that makes the world triathlon series IT races different from other olympic races that professional might be racing in?

Gwen: The races I do are draft legal so we can draft on the bike we can be peloton. the focus of the races are that it’s basically formed around the olympics so people that who, IT world champion series races are trying on the olympics.

Suzanne: Okay, so is that pretty much a universal goal of all your competitors at the same international stage is that everyone’s trying to work towards getting on the olympic team spot

Gwen: Correct I would say that is the goal for the almost all of the triathlete I’m competing against.

Suzanne: So when did you know that when you are on the 2012 olympic triathlon team right?

Gwen: correct.

Suzanne: And when did you know when your career maybe on your high school or college that going to the olympic might be a possibility for you?

GWen: You know that can be crazy cause growing up I had this huge passion for swimming and so I actually didn’t start triathlon until 2010 but I’m growing up I love swimming I was doing 2 day swim in middle school I was doing everything I could to be successful for me tonight would took to the tv growing up I want to go to the olympics and someway every time I went to the olympics I would watch every swimming event and I’m actually in love with it and i just came to te realization in highschool and college that I didn’t have a talent to go to the olympics like I just didn’t have time so I kind of gave up on that dream going to the olympics is that ok? you know is it in my plan? what else can I do? olympics kind of get in my plan at the university of Wisconsin Madison, and did a little bit of running as well in the USA Triathlon contact me and I started doing triathlon in 2010 but I still really didn’t think I could do the olympics because I had this mindset from highschool of you know just thinking I wasn’t good enough athlete.

Suzanne: So some of it was a mindset change for you once you had the opportunities start training with triathlon

gwen: I started training for triathlon in barbenquet college recruitment program. They contacted me and Barb Said, Gwen on 3:57 you could go to the Olympics, and I still didn’t think it was true, I laugh at her like you’re laughing right now and I just, she said give it a shot just do some triathlon on the side I was working for 4:11 I was training for triathlon while I was working full time as a CPA tax accountant and within I qualified for the olympics and it was a shock it was a shock to me and it’s a wonderful journey. I went to the 2012 olympic I had a flat tire and didn’t have the race on that day it wasn’t as good as I want and to me a lot of people are better than me it was 38 or something are on there it wasn’t a good day for me and after that race I finished and i said okay you know I have four years let’s do everything I can to do well and real

Suzanne: Congratulations on that, continuing on that journey after the 2012 olympic what change you to falling year, do you have any sort of I’m sure there are lot of learning moments but was it the flat tire was a poor physical performance or what helps you regain the motivation that you needed to put in another four year, as anything specific?

Gwen: You know I cross the finish line, I can’t pinpoint exactly what it was. You know I just cross that finish line in London in 2012 and I want to go to a real, I want to do this again and create experience I want to have this experience again and I want to win a gold medal that was just my first thought when I cross the finish line in London and I started to look around what it took to be the best in the world you know I look at what are these medal athletes what do they do to be successful and how they become successful are they in this daily performance environment or everyday they’re training with their peers or competitors and so I started to look at some different coaches and at the end of the year I made it on being trained by Jamie Turner where our groups is, we called ourselves the wollongong wizards, I’ve been training with him

Suzanne: So what are the wollongong wizards? Can you describe the location and the nick name?

Gwen: Yep, so wollongong wizards we trained in the US Winter, So January, February, march, April a little bit of May we’re in Wollongong which is about an hour south of sydney Australia and so that our wollongong come from and after that, we’re base on there for that part of the year cause it’s warm for training and a lot for the races at the beginning of the year are close to that area and then we actually had base in Victoria which is in the north part of Spain we trained there for a month until the end of the season and for a few months we all go home once the season is done and then we pick up again in the beginning of the year.

Suzanne: Wow and so, 2015 the second or your third full year with the wizards.

Gwen: Third full year with the them.

Suzanne: That’ great, How did you come across coach Jamie Turner?

Gwen: I was in Australia, I was in wollongong. A couple of days before a race I had in sydney and a race I had in oakland. I face there Jonathan was working with USA Triathlon and he Knows the area, His parents has a place down the area and he knew Jamie Turner as well and Jamie always had this very open door call you can come train whenever you want with the group so I was just training with this group before the couple races and I did it twice and I was two times ahead phenomenal results and I started to look around for other coaches that have the same approach as Jamie. The more I interview the more I realize How amazing Jamie is. You know he has this great, 18 or whatever of us athletes training together where competitors when the gun goes off, we’re racing against each other but everyday in training is just incredible I haven’t seen, no one fighting. No one getting jealous everyone’s happy for everyone else and everyone is always has somebody else to push you know there is always going to be someone who’s having a good day not really push you but do your best and it’s just a great atmosphere. I mean Jamie is the best in the world that I’ve ever seen so that’s why I decided to train with them

Suzanne: Well that’s says a lot of the world champion and IT triathlete saying that Jamie is the best coach in the world, he must be doing a lot of things really really well

Gwen: Yeah maybe I shouldn’t say that, Cause I don’t want th group to get too big.

Suzanne: yeah Maybe nobody will listen to this podcast and nobody will know. What’s it’s like working with Jamie? gives us an example of a typical day in the squad.

Gwen: There is no typical day but it’s really better, where we are in the training phase. We do spend a month at altitude as well, thats the beginning of the year one of my favorite months because it’s so relaxing we all lived right there with each other and it’s just some bonding and just relaxing but in season typical day we’ll wake up go for a morning Job 6 to 8 kilometer pretty easy like 5 30 per kilometer not per mile per kilometer and I normally have some breakfast and then we all go to the pool around 10:30 for an hour and a half together come home we’ll have a fantastic normally had lunch on the table normally fed and taking a nap before other people haven’t ate yet in that regard and then we had a third session per day now can be anything from another run or doing a session you know 1k repeat maybe or it could be a bike or biking anywhere from an hour and a half to four hours with maybe some efforts or could be another swim so that’s normally typical day and then everyday also doing some, just strength works and activation of you know we all have our own strength routine within the group that would just kind of do solo base on where we have to weaknesses for me I work on a lot of strength and core strength

Suzanne: Sounds like everyday is maybe similar structure but different activities everyday. Does Jamie periodized your training for any typical fashion or is it not a right way to sort of your year long training plan?

Gwen: No, I mean. I guess there is no typical day. I’m just very brought over beyond of where we are and even it depends on what day sometimes we do a long run and probably five days in a week we’re doing three sessions and it really just depends on where we are in the season a lot of times you know Jamie will look at the races we’re going to do and he’ll put us in a group so it’s kind of a racing a course in oakland hill. look at that course, okay well this course has 11:13 on a hill we need to be training for the specific hill so really honing on exactly what we need to do for those to be successful at that race and pillar on every work out towards that race so, there is so much what I gave you was just a very broad generalization of kind of what we do

Suanne: I’m sure, the race schedule that you have it looks like you are an at least 10, 9 or 10 IT races this past year and then you mention some other practice races a well. It’s very different from the type of season that most age group triathlete have

Gwen: I felt fortunate in a way 11:53 travell hard because we actually race on every continent besides Antarctica, there lot of travel but we got to see some amazing prizes and cool too because a lot of those triathlons we got to have age group races and we’re able to actually do the age groupers compete as well they may not be able to travel to every race but if you see their home town they get to compete as well along side with us.

Suzanne: Neat, so one of the races this year was actually in chicago, the IT in chicago race with the a lot of age groupers and I know that I had some friends there and went race and they just thought it was fantastic to get to race with you guys and see the pro race as well what was it like to deal an IT race in the US so close to wisconsin

Gwen: It was amazing, basically an hour drive where I grew up so, It’s cool to just be able to race in what I felt like was a hometown you know. People that support me and the year then brought for 8 months of the year don’t even get to go home for 8 months straight so I missed a lot of things like wedding, birthdays and you know being with family functions and so you have so many people that are supportive and understanding that and they have a race close to home be able to show them and showcase what I do, super exciting and Jamie and I had focus on that race to do well on that race for a long time and so it was a very difficult race so that’s a lot of pressure on me but I was able to come away which is such amazing. something I’m really happy about

Suzanne: Yeah that’s great, so did it feel like to cross finish line and first place that race?

Gwen: Yeah, I know I think that, i put so much pressure on myself for that race and I would just distracting for no Reason really and it was just difficult for me I mean I went there, you know triathlon, It’ not a big port it’s not like football where you know everytime I go out somebody recognizes me when I was chicago every time I did go out cause there is so many triathletes there somebody would recognize me, that was something that wasn’t easy to do something that I just had to get use to. It’s fun and it’s exciting but it’s at the same time it’s strange. It’s strange for me and somebody wants to stop and take a picture with me, it’s super exciting before then it was a great race

Suzanne: Can you compare the fields that you had at that race or that experience with other locations in the world. do people not recognize you abroad or is there more support for that athletes and how does that impact the pressure you feel during the race?

Gwen: Every race is completely different in Hamburg it’s huge huge fan base in Hamburg when we go in fans are wind up on the entire course and they know a lot of people and even on other races that they may not know as many triathletes you know in chicago which is in the home race all my sponsor are there I think, a lot of triathletes who followed triathlon in the US will follow US athlete so they know 15:03 It’s just a different atmosphere than when you go abroad a lot of times in races like I said where racing in every continent, you know one time we we’re going somewhere it’s a non english speaking place you know there is that empirical as well

Suzanne: You mention that a lot of pressure in your self during races and I actually got the chance to talk to Jamie today and do an interview with him and we talked about that a little bit and you know from his perspective and I’m certainly paraphrasing but he talks about structuring your training and your race more towards processes and the things that you needed to do and the actions that need to be executed and less about you know time and pace as an outcomes can you just comment a little bit on what your strategy is you know your official strategy with you coach and with he works on you for with and then how that translate to pressure?

Gwen: Always focus on, is the process and you know you can’t focus on the outcome because if you are doing the process right and you are doing everything you can then outcome is going to be successful, whatever that outcome is it may be first place it may be last place and you do everything correct process right is a success so a lot of times you know when I put pressure on myself just because I knew I had a lot of people there and I just you know I was focussing on the process but the pressure is I need to put those process in the place and do them correctly. It’s not the outcome it’s definitely the process but you know I’m still very fortunate in like so many races and chicago to I just have an amazing support crew you know my husband Patrick travel with me all the time Jamie I have you as triathlon sports psychologist I had all this people around me and family that are just super supportive and caring and I think that we’ll leave the pressure there is no reason that I ever really need to put pressure on myself, You know I just go out there and I have fun and you know we work every day in the process what we’re doing and so when you get to a race all you have to do is do exactly what you’re doing all year long, It’s great that Jamie is able to create that atmosphere, that is all you have to do

Suzanne: Yeah that is a real skill I think and it takes some experience coach to be able to look beyond you know pieces power training plans and still that not just in one athlete but a whole group of athletes training together so that speaks a lot for him coaching ability i think. Can you give us some specific examples about the actions of processes that you focus on for example in that chicago race what are your focus on in the swim, where you focus on the bike, what are your focused on the run

Gwen: A lot of it was just technique on what I need to work on. A lot of it were turn over getting the high elbow on good catch you know same focus in the moment and in the bike you know cadence and putting pressure under the pedals make sure my form is correct you know make sure just little things like that is just so you know process of what you need to do on that action

Suzanne: So how much time of any do you spend looking at say your power meter or your heart rate monitor or the pace clock

Gwen: In the race?

Suzanne: No during training and.

Gwen: during the race never. during work outs I don’t look at it a lot you know I send all that stuff to Jamie and I get there really good way you know he looks at the file I send him and he add all the work out and he’ll be able to see what I’m doing and then I send him the file after I worked out and he’ll be able to see and say ok one heart rate is xyz and he can tell you if you recover or not and I think he uses that I think he uses extra warm up he use it as a kind of are they’re recovered you know can we push him a little bit and what needs to be done is also you know he uses that data and kind of analyze data in races and all that stuff and I never think about it always just kind of say you just kind of tweet and see what might be able to be done in training to mimic what is done in the race

Suzanne: Well that is great to hear from your perspective because I think that you know myself included easy for triathlete is to get caught up in numbers and gadgets and performance outcomes and it’s really fun to hear you say that in the first while never think about during the race but you rarely never think about it in training either you just go and get the work done and focus on your specific thing for that swim practice for example

Gwen: Yeah you know in swim when I was younger I looked at outcome at a ton nd if i was hanging a 20:06 you know I’m awful it would affect my whole mood the rest of my day and as a professional athlete and an athlete I just don’t think you can afford waste of energy I think you need to just you know do the best you can and that’s the best you can do cause you are doing the best you can and so you can ask yourself you are not going to be firing a 100 percent every single day you’re going to have bad days and you are just going to have to realize that and tomorrow is a new day and you can start over and one bad day is just a day closer to a good day

Suzanne: Yeah, that’s a great perspective did it take you a while to adopt that transition from how you use to swim when you are younger to what you are doing now and professional or was it a one day waking up and saying hey I’m a professional I need to do what I’m doing
Gwen: It definitely Took time and you know I think I had I definitely started that mentality before I met Jamie but he really just transformed I guess that solidified that and my training and racing it just a great outlook on all things

Suzanne: I get the sense both from talking to you and from talking to him that one of his real skill is working with a squad environment creating a positive environment with you’re all supportive with each other you’re all happy for each other successes and you’ve focus on processes and nobody really worries about the outcome but they’re happy when it happen is that an accurate summary?

Gwen: It really is amazing one of the reasons why I think Jamie is the best coach is creating that environment, you know what other group do you find that are groups that are competing against each other and trying to make a living base on beating the person they are training with and yet they are happy for them when the other person is successful I know almost no other group be able to do that just then it’s been incredible

Suzanne: yeah! that’s great. what’s your favorite training in the group is their in or there’s something some other things that you really look forward too?

Gwen: you know i think, theres so many things i can’t point one.

Suzanne: ok! give us a couple highlights.

Gwen: yeah i really love everyone supportive, i love that somebody there everyday who feeling good i’m going to push it, if theres going to be days i feel bad then it’s there a member is great, it’s also good too, it’s good for development skill, i look at the girls they can do that? and i have to do that it’s my competition you know it just told each other its canable that way and good friendship.

Suzanne: yeah!

Gwen: i mean when we training each other 8-9 months every year every single day, really make good friends it’s incredible to have that , need some really really amazing people.

Suzanne: yeah that’s fantastic, you know i always tried tie in something of our majority listener who H group triathlete can learn from the people we’ve interview on this podcast and i think is their anything can we apply to the H Group triathlete, there are opportunities in group training and if you live in metropolitan area there is probably several opportunities to get involve to the group and if you don’t, the first group you where in is the positive environment you really looking forward to, keep looking around theres probably a groups you know even though its a group of 2-3 people with positive environment that’s probably a lot that a big group that’s got negative or over competitiveness to it.

Gwen: yeah training in a group this year saw it fine and easier in motivating you know people if you don’t show up, they going to know it, where are you, what happen? you don’t want to say bad it was. its really motivating and fun. it makes people fun.

Suzanne: thats great and you what as a professional you those choices not like your college students or some probation program, are you required to do XYZ,

Gwen: i don’t have to go every practice but i do. We know that be the best and we need to and no one is forcing us to do it and thats great everybody show up everyday and get work on it.

Suzanne: that’s fantastic can you give us an example of your favorite run, bike and swim session.

Gwen: My favorite run, bike and swim session. In running i really want to do like for hard run, yeah a hard session i like is 1 kilometer repeat with a lot of rest, some of you like 6-5, 1k in 3 minutes recover rough and really enjoyed that workout its confident its their amaze i can do may 10k page at per 1 kilometer and it just really confident and fun everybody is doing that together its fun too and sometimes we get also the boys involve we handicap on it so we finish at the same time and it makes little competition with itself it so exciting.

Suzanne: that’s fun

Gwen: yeah! and then we see first swim session, i definitely like the open water you know, 1 or 3rd or twice a week jaime go to swim open water and breeze and i set up mini course and we ramp out of the water and do a course that we do in a race, it’s a fun to practice that and some different to pool practice camp and it pass to practice on beginning and we all that doing together.

Suzanne: for bike session

Gwen: For Bike workout we do a lot of motor pacing we should like we do, i think one of my favorite bike for cast, we do some formality repeat up the hill, it really good path do and that is kind of, ano were kind of afterward of power out, power number out afterward, so looking good improvement that’s one we don’t so it every week but we rough this season so you kind of improvement and kind of exciting well.

Suzanne: its going to be satisfying to see and the fruit of your training not just see the result but also see some concrete numbers.

Gwen: yup, yup!

Suzanne: are you able to identify anything specific change in 2014 versus 2013 , that allowed you to choose consistent result in 2014 and for anyone here that is not familiar with your result referring to is how 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 IT races listed in your result schedule seven of them is 1st place including the grand finale. in 2013 you have several 1st place finishes at least four and i’ve right 2nd and 3rd a couple lower places as well and what have you change or what’s be quicker to you to be able to achieve consisting result on this past year.

Gwen: 2013 it was chasing quarter in (–27:36). the goal when i join jaime we have a workout in the half of my triathlon and some of my bike and that’s we did, we start working with sam and start working with my bike. The first year i join jaime, he was learning about me and me are learning some unique training environment that i never had been before , it’s a bouncing act. i learn a double swim, a couple time we group we busy on this swim and then we do a bike planker which is a bikey and if i do too much biking and it takes away from my swim, it could be found that balancing act, having the year of competing that he highest level is difficult and its funny to say that my last year in my consistent and the result will appear but i never felt that i was very consistent i feel like i’m not very consistent. i feel to working on it.

Suzanne: it’s very interesting

Gwen: its a process, every race i go every night i know theres work on and a little bit nervous but i can go back to the basic and no focus to the process what i need i need to do and everything exactly i control of.

yeah! that’s great to hear that how you describe that u know its one of the specific thing that is not going right suddenly you have a hard moment just the ongoing process , between you and jaime it sounds like fight a witness in your current training in the half of working on the half of waist, you identify those you took action to improve those and the result were spoke to themselves, just they accord.

Gwen: yeah, this task here i think i know a unique position that i was able to execute my run i have one strong strength i don’t think next year that have, i think those girls are come from me theres no longer a secret to pass this run string going to. i think people will come

let’s put triathlon changes we see that throughout the years i think theres going to be udge doing next year what of dominant and going to be prepared of changes in the half of how to be successful this course

Suzanne: yeah, like that perspective so its constantly changing the only thing you have controlled yourself but that waht pack some of competitors choose in focus on when she sees what her level competition sees.

Gwen: correct yeah.

Suzanne: can i ask you some couple personal question.

Gwen: please!

Suzanne: you just get married recently right?

Gwen: yes. i’m patrick and i get married on october 4th

Suzanne: yeah congratulation

Gwen: it’ a very good year, yeah thank you

Suzanne: so you are mention some of the things that is special for you because patrick support to you, he travel with you having your breakfast, lunch ready for you, i mean that’s going to be fantastic to both of you for able to share that. what do you think say about his involve in your career?

Gwen: i think patrick most important role for me has spend more emotional support he may disagree on that, i think his most important role has been things help me to recover, to train better. So i basically said i could know not be on abroad in 8-9 months of the year, i could not be in daily performance environment not like with jaime, her working on much i had working was at be with and i miss home i like seeing home i wasn’t able to commit on that until patrick says come abroad with me and he’s willing to that support to be in this scope environment and on top of that i able to making even more successful i say, give myself better opportunity specifically because he’s doing the little thing like he’s going grocery shopping he’s cooking many else, he’s doing the cleaning, he carry my bike it take a lot of time if i have dozen of workout all of us athlete are lot of time specially were season on and just able to make a nap and he take
care of anything else. I don’t know if theres anyone else that really have that in people we competing again really fortunate.

Suzanne: well sounds like we all need someone like patrick.

Gwen: yes it’s very wonderful

Suzanne: he’s available for hire?

Gwen: i don’t know if a higher amount yet maybe if career start with.

Suzanne: maybe if you use your career for two of you.

Gwen: yeah!

Suzanne: what kind of sacrifices just patrick have to make?

Gwen: yeah you know patrick and i both have kind that eliminated word from our vocabularies, we do anything in investments, being away from family 8 or 9 months a years and then to sacrifice investment to our future and our lives, patrick you know he had professional cycle, he stop that to take care of me and i think it’s little humble on it here when we back in mini soda (–32:59) he have been training, he do very well and i was little humbling you know there’s things like that you know i think he also feel he gain a lot you know he also able to travel the world with me and sees some amazing things and we are so fortunate. Some able to experience, were not going to be able to that, for our entire life or just trying to take advantage, able to that much right now.

Suzanne: that’s great i really like that perspective and i was little bit nervous asking that question, i’m not sure how to asking that. thank you for sharing that.

Gwen: yeah

Suzanne: you’ve started that scholarship fund recently and gwen Jorgensen scholarship tell me about that.

Gwen: yeah you know patrick and i doing that bow . I started that because i really had a great to donate some money, patrick said how about did that on triathlon and i said that was brilliant idea, i have done so much in triathlon, we want to see that grow, we agree to work it through doing to 2016 on the olympics and we do for junior triathletes or benefit triathletes 19 and i can be for coaches to supporting athletes director.

We have start on 500,000$ and we have 20,000$ right now we have concert and we have a donation(–34:34) we start a concert and new york is one our sponsor mansheet, triathlon foundation. athlete show so 25000$ is amazing and the campaign for this september 21, we really don’t have the application but its a hundred application, its blowed away. Its amazing to humbling to lead some of the application of people. the actual need of this athlete, some other one to. I don’t want all that money i just need a bike and just bonded we really touching all i really want is bike to compete. Yeah we love to help you to get a bike that just like we started it. how this people the whole grab a board and keep this people in this board.

Suzanne: that’s great. its too late for this year as the application end in november 1st but if someone listening either has or knows might benefit of this next year. what’s the process of applying?

Gwen: yeah theres application online and next year i don’t have, we decided doing the deadline early in the year next year, so just keep an eye on my twitter, my facebook and triathlon posted on the website

Suzanne: ok!

Gwen: will be 20 media outlet coming out on next year send application would be.

Suzanne: so people just keep their ears per top all that found about it.

Gwen: correct.

Suzanne: good. we talk little about the chicago race is about special race for you. how did it feel to win the final race of the serious tear of the finale hamilton.

Gwen: yeah chicago race is my number one goal and badminton is my number two goal and the final is hamilton going to that race is very unique situation knowing that to win the world champion i only have to be, i got 16th places something like that and i just able to think, i just going in i want to do everything i could, so successful in that race so fast getting top 16.

I actually want to get that individual race, yeah! i did also very long season, its a very long season for lot of us eventually i was straggling the speed. its there a few months that i was just i cut up everything i just straggling you know i don’t do the workout i’m tired and i need to break but i got up and work everyday I’m really thankful i was able to do that and able to win.

Suzanne: yeah talked already about a how is not your performance raising in outcome base, what were the some difference process you use for that final race compare to the early race. did anything change is there pressure you live only needed 16th place as supposed running for 1st place.

Gwen: i put pressure on myself on.

Suzanne: interested!

Gwen: i went to the grand finals, if i won that, if i won the world champion, fortunately i crash it exactly it is. you know had that love i have the top 16 some more horrible than that. i always think that first thing you have to controlled so i want the race. focusing in the process, focusing in what i can control and just doing everything i could.

Suzanne: how did you feel when you cross that line?

Gwen: it was interesting one when i cross that finish line. i didn’t really think about that was the only one race i cross finish line, i wasn’t like i would happy but i just interested feeling i want to find daniel and find patrick. i get the time i had really comprehended but i won the world championship like i’m running down the blue carpet cross the finish line like never runned through my mind like this is it, you won like none of those prophet it’s very interesting race apparently when i cross the finish line, this is all kind of real didn’t really seems it lead seems that important I guess I don’t if that’s the right word it’s just I finished and i just want to find jamie and I want to find Patrick and i do found and want to seat down then talk to them.

Suzanne:Yeah wow that’s interesting. how special, what is means to you to be the world champion?

Gwen: you have a great question, i don’t know i never been answer that, it something that i think you know i think we focus on, i focus on lot of process but when outcome here come i think it showed how support i have and that’s the way for me to kind of give back all those who giving to me, you know theres no way do what i’m doing without jaime without my training partner in the world without patrick without my family without triathlon without my pampers without like. there’s no way i can do without this people and i think although it’s end of the day the result are the most important thing without happiness and the way makes better and able to get back to those people and let them shared that and experience that with me because there’s no way i can do without them.

Suzanne: yeah! I hear a lot of themes in our interview here and sort of pair up to our interview when i did to jamie, jamie’s interview i ask a lot questions about you and during your interview I asked a lot question about jamie i seems common themes you know support the environment, processes and it sounds magical when it comes together like that.

Gwen: yeah it means like jamie has incredible way of just mentally preparing every athlete, every athlete you know i think may not work for every athlete just focus on the process may they focus on something else or he’s able to very intelligent man and he i think he just always knows what to say in each individual person he really good in reading people figure it out what they need and he’s able to help me have the right mentality what i need to focus on how i can be my best

Suzanne: oh! that’s fantastic the last thing I want you to ask is training camp is coming up in florida of between christmas and new years. Are you looking forward for that?

Gwen: yeah i really looking forward to be in the camp and for that i’m going to be done their let for say with my husband watching patrick in view, but yeah i’m going in 28 and i’m just excited to share my knowledge with other athlete my H group athlete you know share that knowledge, invite you running going to be answered your questions they might have jamie will be there so the camp as well and I think we’ll be there the whole camp so just to the feel the interrupt well coaching jamie and I you know what is like kind of to see the best in the world, you see this every single day.

Suzanne: yeah that’s going to be the great experience for everyone who sign up for it. unfortunately i won’t be there in the same day that your their down afterwards but we can reach that some other times.

Gwen: yeah.

Suzanne: well great i really appreciate taking time out of your day to do this podcast and i wish you the best of luck in assuming your training in this winner 2015 and continue success to your supporting process to base training.

Gwen: Thank you

Suzanne: Have a great day Gwen and take care.

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